Tamiya M-03 mini racing at Ryper

[James]

Looks like there -might- be a Tamiya Mini class at Ryper for next season... racing standard M-03 tamiya chassis, silvercan or sport tune motor, the packaged ESC, etc... I'm unsure of the rules of the class as yet, but could be fun. I'm keen to grab a kit and put it together for some fun racing hehe..

I don't have the 100% on it yet, but it was mentioned... any1 who wants to do some cheap on-road racing, this would be a neat way to get in.. heaps of fun too hehehe..

[Bowling Ball]

Be nice if they did, would be something of interest to me. the kits are only around $120 from HK. (Or $135 for the M-03L)

[James]

yeh.. rcmart has em at $99usd, and they pop up on ebay a lot. I know Dave will be ordering a pile. they wont cost much even from him... they come with everything except radio gear and battery.

I'm thinking just for some fun and some giggles would be good. and the more the merrier, stuff 12 or more on the track at once hahaha, carnage!

[Bowling Ball]

Might be able to push for a mini class at the carpet club too? (Might as well get the most out of them - good for winter)

[nexxus]

Sounds good to me, ditch the TT01 and play with these a while *yay*

[Alex]

yay! run the Alfa / mini club races ! Im tempted to get an alfa (since i had a real one) if it gets going!

[James]

for sure. should know more about whats going on within a week or so.

I know what I want for christmas now :) tamiya mini kit please. haha

[nexxus]

Very simple chassis!

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[James]

yep, they only accept stick packs too. at least they are cheap haha

[Alex]

hey James, if ur getting one from rcmart, lets do bulk to save on shipping costs! haha

[Alex]

OK, for any one interested in specs and pics...and perhaps some reviews

(Courtesy of tamiyaclub.com)

mini

http://www.tamiyaclub.com/car.asp?id=217

Alfa Guilia
http://www.tamiyaclub.com/car.asp?id=193

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[Matt]

i am concerned it will come and go like the Mini-T fad. like Mini-T's, i'll sit this one out and see if its still going after 6 months of it "taking off"

[nexxus]

Yeah but at the end of the day you can still slap a stock motor in the M-03 and run 1:10 Stock etc so it's not such a big risk.

[James]

exactly. it's a 1:10 car, not a different 'fad' if you like. theyve been running them over east and over seas for years as part of the TCS, etc.

For the investment (very little $$$) I dont see why not, it will be fun :) and a great even level of racing, even more close racing compared with stock motor racing, coz you cant touch the motors at all.. (silver can and sport tuned).

I'm not going to convince you to race one Matto, you'll make your own decision. I had no regrets with my mini-T, building it and hopping it up is half the fun. if/when you get bored, you move on. its what r/c is about.

I can picture a bunch of tamiya mini's belting around on the track haha, so much fun.. I'm looking forward to it.

as for buying one, I'll probably just buy one from Ryper when dave gets them in rather than ship one in, it's not really worth it, what will I save, $20, $40, who knows.

If anyone else is keen for some mini racing, maybe we organise a 'mini build up' event? all get together and assemble them, hehehe.. i dunno

I'll have to dig out a servo, a receiver and build/buy some cheapy unmatched stick packs :)

silver can / sport tune use stuff all batt capacity, should be able to run these mini's really cheaply, get a bulk pack of 2000mah or simular stick packs.. :)

I'm already thinking about how I wanna paint the shell? hehe Monte Carlo rally stylez? "Italian Job" styles? hrmmm

the M0-3 is the original, the MO-3L is the newer kit, which has a slightly altered chassis from the MO-3 that allows you to mount the electronics lower in the chassis for better COG, newer kit also obviously has the new shape BMW mini body.

already spent most the day surfin' and reading up on em.

exciting :) and best of all, cheap to get into

[Alex]

coutn me in for the mini James! !super

[Alex]

oh btw, mini is fwd, and true to real life, guilia is rwd

[James]

hehe yeah, FWD.. a whole different r/c setup, apparently they even understeer like a 1:1 fwd car would.. :) more stuff to tune.. hehe

[nexxus]

I'm in! (Dosh prending) I'll pull the radio gear, ESC and metal servo from the TT01 (and the oil shocks) ball race the little bugga and go nuts! Be good to see some FUN racing and not so serious stuff! Good lil hack class :)

[James]

keep your hacking away from my mini thanks ;) hahaha

[nexxus]

hrmmm brushless Mini?

[KingBob]

Hmm, i might have to paint a nice british racing green one, with a whopping great union jack on the roof!

[James]

seems we may have enough racers here to fill a race grid already! hehe.. we'll start the "TA Mini Cup", and do a points system, and have prizes at the end, etc.. haha. TA sponsors the mini class at ryper on-road.. or something. now I'm just thinking... urgh

[nexxus]

Why the hell not? It'd be good to have a light hearted social race that people can just have fun with and not take seriously! I call the prize for "First to wreck a Mini"

[James]

I couldn't help myself. I bought the kit today from Ryper. Dave's already sold 3, he's getting four more kits in soon.

great price too! $165, or $175 with bearings to suit :) pretty neat!!

cant wait! hahaha. comes with everything except radio gear and batteries. nice.

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[James]

it is absolutely official. There IS a Tamiya M03L mini class at ryper for next season of racing, this means the class will be with points, etc.. much like the TT-01 class, which I'm unsure if TT-01 will still be a class or not :)

I got my mini.. time to assemble.. (when i find time haha)

J

[Alex]

thats uber quick Mr James :D

[KingBob]

Are they gonna run the minis on the same day as regular onroad? I'm gonna be racing onroad anyway, so might look at a mini. certainly cheap and fun!

[KingBob]

I think from memory there is one on the shelf, but not sure how much it is. Don't recall if it's a new or old body type.

I might have to get it on saturday though... my xmas present :D

[M.J]

pretty sure their is two one old kit and one expert built one.

[BALISTC]

Very tempting to buy one, but I'm scared I'll buy it and 3 months later, everyone will sell up and I'll be the only one with one :P

[James]

There is an older kit which has the older shape body shell (old classic mini) it's the M-03. this chassis is slightly different to the latest one. very simular with only subtle differences. Ultimately your better off with the new chassis (kit) it allows you to more easily position your electronics lower in the chassis for lower COG.

I'll clarify the tamiya mini situation at Ryper.

There IS a mini class that WILL be run WITH the on-road racing. Just like there is mod, stock, tt-01, ladies class, novice, etc... the MINI class is a GO FOR THE WHOLE SEASON. This means it will be a class with points (part of the championship series, just like the other classes)

consider this an absolute go. As I've already said, three have been sold already, Dave's already ordering more kit's in. The price is very reasonable.

The kit comes with everything except batteries and radio gear. It even comes with a motor and ESC!

I mentioned previously that the kit cost is $165. if you want bearings it's $2 per bearing on top of that cost. we originally thought there was only 5 bearings requried, meaning you'd pay $175 all up, but there is infact 12 bushes that you can replace with bearings. so you'd be paying $165 for the kit (down from $185 sticker price), and $2 per bearing (x12) on top of that if you want bearings, it's not required, but I'm sure you would agree bearings are nice :)

The kid is pretty cool, and definately different, esp being front wheel drive, hehehe.

Dave is ordering a variety of option parts, racing slicks, etc, it's all 100% go. I can only think this is going to be a very fun class to race in. Especially with everyone running the good ole tamiya stylez, stick battery packs, 540 motors... i cant wait!! (perhaps thats why i bought one already! hehehe)

might have time to start assembling 2nite, dunno.

the new racing season starts early next year. Grab a kit before then and join in!

Dave and Rob the Hack from Ryper are both going to race in the class too... so give em hell! hehehe

[nexxus]

Nah I'm staying with it, bit of retro fun! PS James how did you figure $10 in bearings, that'd be what? 5 bearings? My understanding is it's a TL01 gearbox so that needs 6-8 bearings then 2 in each wheel hub so 8 there as well. Correct me if I'm wrong!

[James]

pics!

Tamiya ESC and asc parts...

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[James]

wheels and tyres, so cute, apparently HPI RS4 wheels/tyres also fit. these come with inserts, etc

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[James]

body shell..

Tamiya body shells are excellent. the detail is awesome. it also comes with body mirrors and other bits that you stick onto the shell to make it look 'real' :) what colour to paint it? hrmmmm. might go for a modern 'john cooper signature' design...

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[nexxus]

Tamiya ESC, HA~! not using that, in goes my MC330R baby!

[James]

Nah I'm staying with it, bit of retro fun! PS James how did you figure $10 in bearings, that'd be what? 5 bearings? My understanding is it's a TL01 gearbox so that needs 6-8 bearings then 2 in each wheel hub so 8 there as well. Correct me if I'm wrong!

quite right. I was wrong, there is 12 plastic bushings that you can replace with bearings. and two smaller metal bushings that you could also replace if you wanted to, but i dont see a requirement. Would be ideal to replace the 12 plastic ones.. :)

[nexxus]

Yeah typically in a Tamiya you'd do the plastic ones only. so only 4 in the gearbox then? Interesting! I have already looked at Alloy suspension arms at RCMART I wanna bling Mini!

[James]

here's some basic rules that will be sorta what is run at Ryper, unconfirmed, but something along these lines. I honestly dont think it's really going to be that strict, or enforced, I think the main rule is using 540 motors.. :)

Tamiya Mini
Chassis
Tamiya M01, M02 or M03 series “Front Wheel Drive� chassis only.
NO chassis modifications for weight reduction allowed

Motors
540 Silver can Johnson / Mabuchi standard replacement metal endbell motor or Tamiya Sport Tuned motor only.

Motors may not be modified or tampered with in any way.

Tyres
Rubber tyres only permitted as Manufactured, fitted to small size Mini wheels. Tyres may not be Modified or Tampered with in any way, Including 1 single, standard insert per rim.

Bodyshells
Mini Cooper bodyshells only.

Gearing
May run maximum sizes as specified in Tamiya Instruction Manuals. (Speed Tuned Gear Sets not allowed for these cars.)

Hop-Ups
ESC, bearings, any Tamiya hop-ups are permitted with the exception of speed-tuned gears.. (this means you can use any brand esc and bearings, you can upgrade shocks with tamiya oil shocks, etc)

Kits and hop-ups must be assembled as per manufacturers instructions.

Battery
3000mah or lower capacity stick pack's. (suggested by Ryper)

* Generally most mini classes only allow a 2400mah cell pack :)

[KingBob]

Cool, sounds like a good cheap bit of fun. No point blinging them up either, any ali would just weight it down. Though i'd add a set of TRF shocks to it.

[nexxus]

On an M03 FWD you can't speed gear it anyway, I think it lets you run an 18 or a 20 pinion thats it, I'd run the 18

[nexxus]

It's weight vs strength with aluminium isn't it? I'd do the suspension arms just to stop me breakin them

[KingBob]

Stock Tamiya arms are nigh on indestructable! They're basically a solid piece of plastic! I'm sure even you'd have trouble breaking them nexxus! lol

[Bowling Ball]

Any idea if Mini is to be included at the carpet track?

[James]

yeh.. agreed. about the only thing I plan to change is the bushings (for bearings) and put in some oil shocks. the rest can stay standard. It's sposed to be nice and cheap for me :)

just need to get me some stick pack's now :)

[M.J]

just reconfigure ur matched packs

[nexxus]

Don't dare me to break a stock Tamiya arm, I broke a CGM Chassis you know! Buy a couple of those Green Anzmann 3000mah packs, they're pretty good actually!

[James]

Any idea if Mini is to be included at the carpet track?

no idea, i dont think anyone has spoken to precc. im sure it can be done :)

[James]

check out this Tamiya mini... fwah!

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[James]

another

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[nexxus]

Does the shell come with Window masks, I was told they don't :(

[KingBob]

I don't think they do.

But no matter, i'll just mask it up with tape.

[nexxus]

Already got my oil shocks on the TT01 so with swap them over, now have to buy the mini haha!

[James]

you bastard nex.. oil shocks. haha. :)

[BALISTC]

Farkin awesome...sounds a real goer!!

I wont be buying one though....with full time uni, an internship and work next year, i wont have enough time to even play with my Mini-T at home, let alone race Mini's at Ryper :(

[James]

weak Joe, weak. hahaha j/k.

I'm sitting at work, reading forums... and thinking about building my mini kit. damnit. I'd rather be building it than sitting here! haha. might start on it 2nite I think, wooot. I think i got some spare 540 motor's somewhere at home too. hrmmm

[KingBob]

I have some nice flourine coated TRF touring shocks at home, perfect for a mini :D

[James]

KB, DAMN YOUUUUUUUUUUUU

[Alex]

James, build it! build it! haha

But i didnt think the fire will start this quickly! Like Joe, can't see myself buying one right now...considering Im about to forked out for Justo's XXX-4!!!

and I still got the HPI Drifto coming from PHC!

Arrrrgrrgh!

[nexxus]

Bugger the body posts are above roof height, no AARCMCC racing for the Mini's!

[James]

not sure about that one.

you can actually fit different body's on them, there's S2000, alfa, BMW M series, among others..

[nexxus]

Ahh but isn't the whole idea of this us all running Mini's?

[James]

the ryper season championship isnt AARCMCC sanctioned. I dont see an issue, at all

[nexxus]

What if I wanna run my brushless in the Mini at next years Nationals? (BIG WHAT IF!) hehe!

[nexxus]

Can actually run the Manta Ray Ball Diff in the M03 apparantly. Part Tamiya 53070

[bd581]

I've been racing these for 12 months now. Heres what i've found.
Oil shocks - useless, too much traction (on our track anyway)
Wheels/tyres - HPI X-pattern. The Tamiya lasted about 2 race days, the HPIs have been on for about 10 months and still great, havn't even rotated them yet so the rears are like new.
Body - get the short chassis, handling is not as good (hardly noticeable) but Mini bodies are readily available from HPI and Frewer.

Heaps of fun, with identical cars you learn so much about the benifits of smoother better lines through corners.

Best price i know of is from RCSquare.com AUD$94 and $14 for a complete bearing set.
Bought four off him (plus heaps of other stuff) with no problems ever
Best smile for money rc you can get.

[nexxus]

Plus $49.02 SHipping AUS and it's $104 AUS now, total it up, add 7-14 days wait, no thanks!

[bd581]

I've never waited longer than 7 days

$97.92 for the short chassis (real Mini) with Tamiya ESC
$14 Bearings
$74.80 Futaba Transmitter
$60 Delivery
$246.72 Total

Just be patent!
Its worth it.

If you buy other stuff, rims, tyres etc it makes it much cheaper as you get more for the same postage cost

Bought one for a mate last week

[50 lemons]

That would be a no at the moment. Dave will be getting more in.

james you are a bad influence. I just picked one up today.

[50 lemons]

tamiya USA have this article on the mini
http://www.tamiyausa.com/articles/feature.php?article-id=12

[nexxus]

Hope he gets some more soon! I just had RC Mart say (we don't have this etc) so I am getting the carbon gear shafts for the M03 instead. Just found I had 14 TL01 bearings in one of my old boxes, got my Tamiya Oil shocks built, ready for the Mini!

[James]

i just finished building mine.. hehehehe. it's ready to burn you fools on the track :) hahaha

[BALISTC]

DAMMIT I want one :(

[nexxus]

Mini T's died because people stopped racing them, if we keep racing a particular class (M03, TT01 etc) it'll keep the demand up there. TT01 is starting to die down as more people progress to higher levels, I think M03 has a bit of potential as a purely fun *lets go out and be stupid* class.

[Bowling Ball]

Mini-T's died in the ass as most people won't come to the track in the first place!!

[Bowling Ball]

Most of the tracks in perth are no good for mini-t racing anyway.
__________________________________________________ _

Please enlighten me :)

[nexxus]

I think people were hesitant to run a Mini T on a full scale off road track but I wouldn't say they were unsuitable. At least the M03 is still a 1:10 car so same tracks

[James]

I just couldnt get a mini-t to 'jump' properly. no matter what I tried. you'd pull off one wicked awesome jump out of ten. very annoying. apart from that I had a lot of fun with mini-T.

M0-3, supported class at ryper, already know it will be popular just because of that... ryper on-road is very popular.. :)

four people i know of that already have purchased mini's to race ryper, so far. (could be more, dunno)..

was at ryper yesterday, overheard a ph convo with Tamiya distributer... hop ups, spares, tyres/wheels, etc, all coming to support the class. mint :)

see my pics so far in members rides section

[Alex]

James, will the Ryper MINI class combine original m-03 classis minis and m-03L new minis in the same race? or seperate?

[nexxus]

Spoke to Dave it'll be a 540 class so M03 and M03L are fine, most poeple buying now will get the M03L I'd think.

[James]

Exactly what Nexxus said. The difference between the kit's is pretty minimal. I'd just buy the new kit. actually. I did. hahahaha.

[James]

This kit DOES come with paint masks! woot!!

[nexxus]

Spoke to Dave it's actually a 540 class not a specific Mini class, so anyone with a TT01 and a sports tuned could run, I can't find a damn mini anywhere without pushing $200 right now, and with the missus, it's a case of "when she's not here I'll get one" ie, today or sometime next farkin year! Looks like I'll be a TT01er for a bit yet, but thats fine, I'll still whoop a mini's ass!

[50 lemons]

http://forums.radiocontrolzone.com/showthread.php?t=57511&page=45&pp=25

There a few pics of a fully bombed mini on the link above

[James]

Nexx, dave told me this will be a MINI ONLY CLASS..

These classes will be running at ryper next season, as far as I am aware.:

Mini
540
Ladies
Novice
Stock
Mod

[nexxus]

Oops my bad it is a Mini AND a TT01 / 540 class. PS, blew the f.. Bluebird servo metal gear after a WEEK. What a piece of crap!

[JD]

... well you do have incredibile powers :P

[James]

update.

rules will be something like (unconfirmed):

original tamiya Mini M03/M03L chassis only (with no modifications or lightening) no mods to motor mounting location to fit larger pinions (20T is largest and is inc with kit, 18T recommended for sport tuned)
bearings allowed throughout
Tamiya rubber tyres to suit m-chassis ONLY at this stage
Silver can and sport tuned 540 motors only
oil shocks (any TAMIYA ONLY type) allowed
Any speed controller/receiver and servo allowed
BMW Mini or Rover Mini body shells ONLY (no other types)
Stick pack battery packs only. (1900mah's work great and are cheap)
Diff upgrades allowed.

Basically as long as your running the motor's that are allowed, and dont "modify" the chassis" all is good, you can hop it up, etc...

it's gonna be loads of fun, and pretty funny :) they look so funny booting around the track! haha

Season starts mid/late JAN. This is part of the Ryper on-road championship and there will be point scoring (if that interests you) meaning you could get an award at the end of the season, like any other class...

Ryper Hobbies will be ordering Mini kits as required. there are a pile IN stock at Ryper at the moment at a very very good price.

yay!! !super

[James]

http://www.modelflight.com.au/rc_model_support/tamiya_bmw_mini_setup_guide.htm

a good mini setup guide..

[nexxus]

You're right, 18T for a Sports Tuned, I think Chen will get a bit more from his because wasn't he running a 20 when he was racing you?

[nexxus]

*YAY* Finished mine, wasn't happy with the standard servo screw so put a Losi one in, painting was a disaster so my shell isn't the tidiest but hey, don't try and paint in the wind? Going for light weight, so Futaba high speed servo, Futaba MC330R Speedy, JR RS310 Receiver, Sports Tuned with 18T Pinion. Have put on the Oil Shocks and ball bearings in the diff, still waiting my other bearings for the wheels and am going to look at Ball Diff and Carbon gearshafts to lighten it a bit further (legally). Just have to adjust the Toe In/Out and she's ready to harass people Sunday!

[JD]

cool, so when ya gunna sell it?

hehe :P

[James]

nexx, nice one... :)

[50 lemons]

WooT. another mini. will be down at ryper today for another hack.

[50 lemons]

pic of mine with the xray. gotta love leftover paint

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[50 lemons]

The mini invasion continues...

just finished building dave's mini .

[BALISTC]

I'm not giving in to the Mini invasion this time around, although they are SO tempting!

[Bowling Ball]

Mini's are the devil!

[nexxus]

Finally got outta hospital, and my load of mini parts had arrived, this should get it goin!

Parts are:

53267 TA03 Ball Diff
53379 Light Weight Diff Balls
53523 Aluminium Front upright set
Full ball bearings set (includes replacement for metal bushings too!)
Set of soft/med/hard springs to suit oil shocks
Set of Retro Mini Cooper Rims
set of spare TL01 uprights (servo saver, hub carriers etc)
Spare tyre inserts
53205 Universal Shaft Set
53390 Carbon gear shaft set (Hollow and lighter)

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[nexxus]

First trip out he ran 10 laps to Chen's 12, hopefully I can keep up to Chen;'s 13 mark with some practice, hop ups and remembering to put inserts in tyres!

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[James]

nice paint hah, you wont miss it! and nice parts too. YEAH RACING parts! :) I've got a shipment full of Yeah Racing stuff coming after xmas.. :) yay. i see springs, ball diff, all sorts. you bastard!

I'll take you down with my standard mini and freak silver can motor :)

[nexxus]

Just put slicks on the mini with the retro Monte Carlo rims, cornering is definately a bit nicer, just used standard slicks, wonder if the hop up super slicks will be better still?

[nexxus]

As long as I use original Tamiya wheels and tyres I am fine. I can't use HPI or stuff like that. Any hop ups have to be Tamiya.

[nexxus]

I can see ppl reading this and saying "Oh thats just trying to sell more Tamiya bits" well maybe, but noone says I have to do it, and noone says where I have to buy them either. Also, I pretty much guarantee you the quicker cars may well be guys like Dave and James who are still running silver can, it's driver skill 95% and Car set up Hop/up 5% I'm just hedging my bets on my 5%!

[Matt]

by now, after racing as long as you have, your driver skill should be increasing.

whats the go?

[nexxus]

A good driver never acknowledges he's a good driver because once he knows it all, he stops learning.

[BAGES]

Either that or he doesnt want to - in case he is OWN3D at the next race after talking himself up !!!!

[nexxus]

Lol that too! Best be thought of a fool and say nothing than to open your mouth and remove all doubt

[PomAbroad]

Nexx, Yeah Racing are not original tamiya parts, that must mean you can't use them. This is suposed to be low cost racing after all.

[PomAbroad]

we may not be able to police all upgrades, but try to keep it fair for the kids this class is aimed at. How will they feel with there stock mini's when they turn up and see a mini that is made of aluminium. Bling is good, but try to keep it in the light of what the rules are trying to achieve. Is this too much to ask?

[nexxus]

Only yeah racing parts I have are bearings. Which when I asked Dave, was fine. I could go all out and do Yeah racing front and rear alloy hub carriers, suspension arms, hex nuts and the like, but I aint going to, it aint a legal upgrade!

[PomAbroad]

no worries Nexx, glad you checked it out first. Just thought I saw some Yeah Racing alloy staering knuckles in there.

[nexxus]

Nah mate, I used the Tamiya ones, the ones in there were actually the ones I had for the Wild Dagger, they have "Extreme" etched on the edges and are a darker blue.

[James]

I've got every YEAH RACING part available coming for my mini. But only because they sponsor me. otherwise i wouldnt have wasted my time. mini class is for fun.. fun fun. and fun. The only thing i'm looking forward to is seeing a big pile of mini's bumper to bumper on the track.. tailgating, etc haha, they look pretty funny.

the YEAH RACING parts are HEAVIER than the stock plastic items. hahaha. i can only assume

The rules that I have discussed with dave are that shocks, diff/gears, and tyres must be tamiya M-chassis. And only silver can and sport tuned motors are allowed (the motor rules are the main policed rules for the mini class)

im going to try the mini with and without the 'yeah racing' ally bits. I'll put money on the car being slower with the alumn bits on it. in any case, as i said, if they strictly arent allowed, i wont run them.... heh. all good.

RC_King, we really need to find the right tyre. are the slicks good or not? and tyre wear? coz the kit tyres lasted me about 6 batt packs, now they are completely bald. I think we want the 'type A slicks'. or the super reinforced radials. im happy with the kit tyres, but they simply dont last.

cant wait to race mini's.. fun! hahaha. im gonna be in tears of laughter I know it. I was when just Chen and I hit the track with ours... it's hillarious just watching them.

[Matt]

is there a printed set of defined rules?

[James]

there are no printed rules for the class at Ryper. I did offer to write them up.

the rules are loosely covered in this thread, so i dont see a prob :)

Tyres = any tamiya M-chassis tyre. (there's five choices that im aware of)

[Birky]

I thought you were writing them James.

[Bowling Ball]

Why not run the Tamiya Cup rules considering thats how they are run over east?

[Birky]

thats a brilliant idea BB.

[nexxus]

I'll run whatever rules are set down, but to be safe I am sticking to Tamiya hop ups at this point.

[Matt]

you have to define the rules. loose rules cause upsets. refer to emaxx @ 2005 wa states

[nexxus]

At the end of it though all the hop ups won't make a lot of difference to a 540 motor, but it seems to be a lot of people offering a lot of interpretation on a vague point right now. I am working on "Tamiya hop ups only" as I was advised, if I am wrong, well, I'll change it back!

[Birky]

The rules for Mini will be based upon, if not exactly the same as TCS Mini rules. They will be released very shortly.

[nexxus]

The thing is noone knows what the rules are right now, and what is supposed to be a fun class is starting to be overanalysed. Personally I don;'t see how a 540 motor'd car will do a whole lot. I'll run whatever Ryper tells me is legal but until that is defined this arguement is pointless isn't it?

[James]

agreed.. i think arguing about rules is a waste of time. The rules were always going to be TCS style, as per other mini classes around the state, etc... tamiya hop ups, tamiya wheels tyres, and silver can / sport tuned motors.. :) it's not hard.

im really looking forward to racing mini ! hahaha should be a laugh

[Birky]

Sorry forgot to post this yesterday but the rules have been posted on the Ryper Raceway website (www.geocities.com/ryperraceway ) under Club Rules

[James]

woohoo rules! look good too!

shame you still cant post URL's right.. hahaha

[Birky]

well you will just have to copy and paste... !evil

[Matt]

http://www.geocities.com/ryperraceway/

booya

[James]

man this thread is long now! haha.

today I picked up a new set of Tamiya super slick's for my mini... they feel SO SOFT.. no doubt they wont last long at all.. aaah well, gotta try them. Just need someone to try the other type that is there, the Super Grip Radial's :)

[nexxus]

I have a pair of the Super Grip Radials only ($10 at Canning Vale Markets hehehe) so that's my next gamble.

I quite like the standard slicks look trick on the retro Mini Monte Carlo rims :D

[James]

super grip radials eh? canning vale markets eh?

the standard slicks, dont u mean the kit radials? I really cant wait to run mini on sunday, it's going to be so fun hahaha, and hell funny. :)

[50 lemons]

I won't be racing this sunday as I will be helping with the track clean/rejig for precc

[PomAbroad]

If ya need someone to show your mini the quick way round in your absance let me know ;)

[James]

Chen, puhlease... is that chicken squaking I can hear? hahaha bok bok bok... :)

Yesterday my 'yeah racing' shipment arrived. two of everything for the M03 mini.. haha.. of course, none of it will see the car, because, the RULES say i cant run non-tamiya hop ups!! hahaha, but thats cool. I dont need hop up's to WIN hahahaha !lmao

[50 lemons]

I will rock up next week and hopefully chad will come down too. You will just have to be satisfied with dave and nexxus for competition.

[James]

there will be more.. I think Rob the Hack is racing mini? and Renee.. and I saw another Mini (old rover) down there the other day, not sure who's it was.. my mini still remains standard although i bought some new radial super grip's and firmer inserts :) need ball diff!

[50 lemons]

If its a blue rover mini then its a HPI micro. It 4wd and very fast. too fast being 4wd.

[50 lemons]

Come to think of it theres this german dude with his kid. They have a old kyosho one. Its a old RWD pan car.

[nexxus]

Will the Ryper "Tamiya hop ups only" rules extend to my choice of servo saver, as I am looking at putting in a Kimbrough one as the standard servo saver I think contributes a lot to the steering slop!

[James]

nexx, nah, im sure you can use any servo saver.. haha I wouldnt even call a servo saver a hop up.

[Matt]

the mini class starts this sunday at Ryper, are you racing your mini Nexxus?

[nexxus]

definately!

[James]

For sale: Mini M-Chassis Super Grip Radials. used for FIVE laps at ryper, decided I dont really need them. as new only $15! (cost $22)

These are the 60D's, the slicks are the 50D's which are a smaller diameter. the 60D's give more top speed :) you know you want them. full set, in box.

[nexxus]

LOL. Giving in so soon?

[James]

giving in? hell no. I'm only selling a set of tyres. !lol

I'll c u at the track... btw, dave's mini is pretty fast.. damnit. haha

[nexxus]

Mine aint no slouch either, just the driver that needs work! I'll hafta let you take mine for a spin, think I have her set up pretty nicely!

[James]

well i had fun, did some 14 lap races, 15 lap races, and almost a 16 lapper on the last final (but rolling it 3 times killed that dream)... goes well. especially with Matt's Tamiya 1400mah niCD batteries !! oldschool! power!

back next sunday, with Mini and XRAY T2 in hand :)

[Alex]

hehehe, lets just hope we dont lose u James to the onroads. Just dont forget the smell of wet (or dry) dirt hahahah. But yeh, it was fun to watch the minis whipping round the track and u did real well James :)

[Dlux]

........Just dont forget the smell of wet (or dry) dirt............. whipping round the track...........

Man you guys have got to step over the other side just once.............the nitro side. Thats where there is the smell and whipping round the track! puhlease. Try 90km/h in 2 secs

[James]

I'll be playing nitro this year. I promised myself.

I race off-road and now on-road EP as it is. finding time for Nitro as well isnt going to be easy. I already know that this year I will sacrifice some of my off-road race time to race more on-road. It's where I want to be at the moment.

Maybe something like this:
odd Tuesdays: PRECC on-road carpet
odd fridays: WC off-road
Every Sunday where possible : Ryper on-road
(except WAORMA events)

dont want to neglect my home and wife by never being home :)

back on the subject of mini's, the Tamiya 1400nicd packs that matto lent me are awesome, they are old school too. real old school. but the power was insane! (compared to some 1900mah packs i recently bought on the cheap)

I dropped 2sec+ a lap using the tamiya packs!

[nexxus]

I'm going to run Intellect 3600 packs soon in my Mini, be interesting to see how they compare to the Tamiya packs

[James]

IB cells are good, low IR. problem is a pack is about 400gram's, a 1900 stick pack is about 300grams. power, weight, power, weight, power... ? hrmmm

[nexxus]

Seems that the Silver Can does a bit better than the SPorts tuned on these though, going to change mine down and ditch the dicky ball diff, see how that goes for reliability

[James]

sports tuned is a better motor than silver can no question. My silver can has been 'prepped' somewhat. I treat it just like a stock motor, but dont take it apart :) gets the same cleaning/oiling treatment anyway..

[nexxus]

I do the same, powershot spray after every 4 or 5 funs, oil the bushes and put in some com drops.

[nexxus]

Actually thinking I may try 60D super grip radials up front and 50D slicks at the rear, that could work....

[50 lemons]

I've just done something very silly for shits and giggles. The futaba s3003 servo has just been replaced with a KO PDS-2364 servo. Is 13kg of torque enough for a mini?? !whistle

[M.J]

might even have to much torch and rip the front end out !lmao tourque !lmao

[Birky]

how about going one step further and putting a 9x2 in it. Imagine the wheelspin. !burnout

[50 lemons]

You get enough wheelspin with a sportstuned motor and bald tires. Took the mini for a quick test hack and unsurprisingly its more eager to turn in during cornering.

[nexxus]

The mini def needs a good servo, a lot of ppl are running $100-$200 servos in them, hell I have a Futaba 9451 in mine

[50 lemons]

the ko pds2364 is a touch over $200 bux. its worth more than the mini

[KingBob]

So much for a fun cheap class :P

[James]

I run a hitec HS-5925 in mine (digital coreless metal gear programmable). it's a 0.08 servo... but probably isnt that quick due to the esc I'm using.

actually. i ripped it out of the mini last night to put into my new touring car. Looks like the mini now needs a new servo. haha

[50 lemons]

the servo in the mini is really for my xray but I just can't be stuffed pulling the existing servo out.

[nexxus]

The servo in my mini is, well, for my mini! I prefer the 3305 in the TA05 at the moment.

[James]

So....

can no one step it up and beat the mini god ? !lol

I'm so full of it... !jerkit

no really, bring it. hahaha

[nexxus]

Mate you got the drift into the corner down! Look out when you find some Tamiya packs to run permanently!

[Alex]

holy crap! 12 pages of mini goodness.....

[Alex]

ok. just got off the phone with PHC. Two Rover Minis (M03) coming my way! (one for Sempati and one for me)..no ETA as yet.....hopefully we wont be too late to race the class!

Silver can, bone stock (hmmm..well maybe bearings har harrrr), NiCDs.. here we come! yeeeee hah!

now.....just needs an original paint scheme..too many Italian Jobbys out there!

[Alex]

Check it! (heh! not mine...I wish!) !bow

(image courtesy from... someones ride from... Tamiyaclub)

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[James]

nice one! never to late to race mini class!!

[James]

come to ryper tommorow (sun) to (hopefully) see 16 laps with a mini! hehehe who knows.

fun!!!

[Alex]

man..this thread is getting LOOOOONG! lol

now..can anyone tell me if the HPI Mini Body (one with the front bumper guard) fit the TAMIYA M03 chassis>??

[Alex]

heres mine!

'scuse the dodgy paintin..but had too squeeze building / painting the Mini to make sure IM ready for this coming Sunday's race!

stuffed up the mirror trims, so now all windows are "tinted" %-6

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[Alex]

And another from the front...mmmm new chromy silver tamiya rattle can paint

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[Bowling Ball]

You stuffed it up? Looks pretty damn good to me!

[Alex]

thanks BB, ahhh..i can be a bit of a perfectionist...must be years of doin PLASTIC modelling

[James]

mate that looks really nice! I'm impressed!! haha. cant wait to bash it up on sunday, get it all scratched up, etc. hahaha!!

[50 lemons]

James, Chris and me will give you a hand to break in the mini bawahahahahah!!!!

[Alex]

heh yeh, already ordered a new shell (from being not happy with my now dubbed "BASHER" bod) muwhaha.

James, Chen, and anybody else! its ON!

Rover mini = S T R O N G
BMW mini = Mama, can you take me to school?

JK !lmao

[Alex]

update: mini now has an "anime" look, will strong permanent marker lined all over.. haha, looks hell funny.

pic to follow soon!!!

mmm judging by the vast long-ness of this thread, i might just chuck it on the members ride section..

me bad engrish todai

[50 lemons]

out of interest what have you loaded the mini with in terms of electronics??

[Alex]

Chen, im running stock all round (cept for yeah racing bearing! Thanks James!)and with the following:

JR577 Servos (standards thatc ame with the XS3)
LRP Quantum Super reverse (tiny!)
rs310 receiver

Oh, also "supercharged" the silver can!! (water break in method)

meh!

[Alex]

update Pics! Dubbed = "Lupin's basher"

!rockband



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[KingBob]

heh Shadow, i still make plastic kits as well, but with all the RC i've been doing i don't think i've finished a kit in about 6 months!

[Alex]

and another

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[Alex]

booyah!

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[Alex]

KB i hear ya brotha, i hear ya....

all my GUNDAM kits still sealed!

oops off thread! !lmao

[T4Trasher]

hey shadow i reckin it looked better without the black lines

[James]

you think your gonna chop the king with your water dipped silver can eh? ha haaa... bring it.

[Alex]

he puffs he huffs! he bloooooooooooows the house down! hehehe yeh but no but yeh but no but yet but nobutyebutnobutye, not out there to win, just to have fun!

James, if i get close to you on my first outing with the mini, itd b a bonus! har harrrgh !bow

hmm. checking out the stock damper suspension. Roll ROll Roll me thinks! Rofl
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[KingBob]

Hey shadow, I saw a nice set of Tamiya TRF threaded touring shocks at PHC on saturday :D

[Alex]

ha! KB, thanks but ur too late. :D

Already replaced the 05's plastics with the TRF's

So, tried the 05's plastic CVAs on the mini... and it works a treat!

[James]

shim the inside of the CVA's with rubber o-rings to bring the droop (and ride height) on the mini right down otherwise the CVA's will be too big and the shocks just wont work properly.

'super mini CVA's' are the go for mini.

Just maybe see how they go as they are, otherwise, fill them shocks with rubber o-rings hehe. there's little or no adjustment in the mini, so doing this is a good way to bring the car closer to the ground and make the shocks work a little better.

[Alex]

thanks for the tip James.

Ive taken all spacers off the shocks, and it seem to "look" right...arms look just flat to the chassis. Its definately taken a bit of the roll factor away comparing to the rubber dampers.. Handling seems fine too..

haha, dunno.. we'll see how she goes in a "real" run Sunday lol. Hell funny to drive though, i couldnt helped laughing whenever it did a "hop" over little mounds! !lmao

[James]

it's damn fun to race... because it's stupidly funny.

[50 lemons]

I miss one week of racing and the mini class gets cancelled. Does this constitute proof that I am the centre of the universe?

[Alex]

what?? ur kidding right??? mini class cancelled?????

[James]

you have it all wrong.

there was two mini racers. myself and Chris. we were bumped into the 540 class to make up a bigger class...

i chose not to race for the week and concentrate on my TC :)

there will be mini's this sunday, BIG TIME !@$! haha YEAH!

[50 lemons]

ok. will make a effort to head down this weekend. Chad's table with 15 coats of clear will be down on carpet tonight

[James]

I'm going to scratch up his table. mwah haaa

[Alex]

well, me (and sempati if he gets his act together :P) will deffo b down this sunday with minis for sure!