September 11 conspiracy Documantry

[remotebandit]

Did anyone watch it tonight and what are the thoughts

Personally a huge toss in my opinion , im sure a few superimposed shots and allot of shit talk to convince people to believe .

Ill wait for more replies till i comment further .

[Propane]

Didn't watch it. I did see a doco on a couple of guys doing a doco on the new york fire crew, And they filmed inside the trade centre when all hell broke loose..

Also they filmed inside tower two when tower one collapsed.. it's was full on footage !!!

[JD]

was that the one on channel 10?

I saw a bit of it, and it looked like some nerd guy thinking he knew everything, And so i did the only thing i could do... change the channel :)

[remotebandit]

na prop , this doco was more about the planes exploding before impact with the building and why this was so , was there bombs in the building ( i dont believe cause even a qualified pilot cant pinpoint in in to that accuracy ) was there bombs on the planes , someone even said that the planes that hit had no windows so what happened with the ones they claimed were the ones that did hit . Heaps of shit they were going on about .

[Matt]

anyone see the powerpoint file that went around about the plane that hit the pentagon?

the pentagon building was peicered and didnt look like it was hit by a plane at all, but a missle.

the pics were great.

[remotebandit]

thats another thing they were saying Matt , that it was impossible for a plane to fit in the pentagon where it crashed .

I reckon it fit allright , at that speed there would have been allot of comression to get it in there .

Id love to see that email if you still got it , let me know and ill pm you my email address .

[Propane]

might try to download that conspiracy Documantry...

[Birky]

Propane: Yeah I've seen that doco, its pretty full on.

I'm seen the email, but for similar stuff just do a search on google or yahoo for "9/11 conspiracies" and its amazing some of the stuff that comes up.

[KingBob]

i've seen that powerpoint matts talking about, a load of crap.

There was one bit where they say "theres no plane wreckage" yet they cropped the pic to edit out!

Another one during rebuilding they show a pic of a truck driving over packed sand on the lawn outside the pentagon, and they say "so what is all the sand hiding?" umm, hello, it's for the trucks to drive on otherwise they sink into the lawn when loaded up with tonnes of debris!

It was all crap, i found a website which debunked every single slide in that powerpoint.

[Birky]

Heres one that follows on what KB was saying:
http://www.conspiracyplanet.com/channel.cfm?channelid=89&contentid=2246

or this one (quite interesting)

http://www.freedomunderground.org/memoryhole/pentagon.php

[BAGES]

Yeah I too saw the one Matt's taliing about.....not convinced something this huge didnt happen the way we saw it.......

[James]

seen the Hamburg Cell? that was on foxtel last night, it's a movie about the sept 11 attack, from the terrorists side of things... very interesting :) how they trained, went to USA, learned to fly planes in the USA, got visa's because they were student's of flight school in the USA, etc, etc..

haha damn.

[remotebandit]

i hope someone can explain this to me but i had a discussion today with a co-worker and couldnt understand what she was going on about .

She said war makes money , considering how much it costs to go to war and create arms etc , how can this make money ... surely TV stations dont pay that much for the tv rights ... hehe

[danhfvcsd]

unless she meant as in - rebuilding the places that get torn up in the process? Spose you could make money by having all your workers go in and repair all the homes/buildings etc etc etc etc?

Hey - that doco thing last night - did it end with some wierdo getting dragged out of court or something while he was yelling "you funded the terrorists" or soemthing to that effect? - thats all i caught of it -lol- But can't see a conspiracy going on - why the hell would a country as patriotic as they are - wanna blow emselves up?? i mean - sure - maybe in the slums and shit with all phycho junkies and all - but not government politicians??

[losi xxx4 r sweet]

that 767 plane that crashed into the buildings was a military plane
and the guy that owned the other building said to cut it when it takes weeks to plan a demolition

[Propane]

somewhere i read that the U.S. needs to go to war every 6 years or so... they need to use the old bombs and then make new ones.

Bottom line is.. the U.S. need the oil and store as much oil as they can, and they don't use there own reserves and quota how much can be drilled out of texas and the gulf.. why !!!

Last country on this earth who has the oil wins the war :)

And the U.S. need some control of the middle east oil.....

[Birky]

somewhere i read that the U.S. needs to go to war every 6 years or so... they need to use the old bombs and then make new ones.

I reckon thats about right.

1991 - Gulf War
1997? - Serbia/Bosnia
2001 - Afghanistan/Iraq

[remotebandit]

its just all ****ed up and i never gave a shit about it till i had my daughter and now when i hear of bombs and killings etc , it really hits home hard as a dad to see innocent kids , parents etc die .

Who ever bit the big 1 with the twin towers has also started a cult of copycat terrorism as well so if the government for example did start it , they now have to deal with the copycats .

I had something else to say but totally forgot .

[remotebandit]

Yeah , just remembered what i was gonna say and the reason for the last post .

Oil might not me such a big deal in the next 10 - 20 years , looks like electric cars will be the go so where does that leave these middle east countries , 3rd world ????

[Propane]

Heard on the radio them talking about oil reserves and how much the world has.. something about they got it wrong 20 years ago saying we had like 100 years worth..

As for the middle east.. the u.s. will suck them dry along with the rest of the world,, look how much china these days are using oil...

Now there saying we have 50 years worth of oil reserves..

So good for electric cars in the future..

just no electric f-111's flying thru the skies ..hehe..

I guess we are lucky we grew up in the v8 years as 50 years from now our cars will be as quiet as these electric r/c's now..

Bring on the nitro thanks... i love loud machines :)

And think - THE GREENIES WOULD BE PROUD OF ALL YOU ELECTRIC R/C USER'S !clap

[KingBob]

Well known Ferengi rule of aquisition: War is good for business.

[JD]

every thing is running low now :P

The price of steel has doubled, its in such high demand cos of china, now all the wreckers are getting rich lol

[Birky]

If you have the time, I recommend downloading and watching a doco called Loose Change (its 1 hr and 30 mins long). I just saw it today and IMO things on 9/11 didn't happen as the US government wants us to believe happen.

Thats just my opinion thou.

http://question911.com/links.php

[JD]

just your opinion, or just your brain being washed :P

My dad went to manhattan recently.

THE TOWERS ARE GONE!

[ned]

i have heard heaps of different figures for how long we will have oil for and my dad who does a lot of work offshore rigging for woodside that these scientists dont know the half of it. he says and has shown me maps depicting the undersea oil fields just around australia and only the ones owned by woodside(there are plenty more that other companies own). there are three more main ones each holding around 30 years of oil left to tap. the one they are still pumping from has about 15 years to go in it.

oil isnt owned by the earth anymore...its a company owned thing. each company has there own pockets all over the world that these scientits who predict when we will run out dont know about so they cant factor that into their estimates.

[remotebandit]

wow b3 , im definately a skeptic and believe it happened as we saw it but bloody hell , allot of stuff there to mind **** you, infact its leading me to allot more research .

THe planes scashing into the tower ??? i dont believe that flash is a bomb or Missile .

When the towers dropped ??? yes does look like controled demolitions but just think , when something like that starts pancaking its going to compress allot of air downwards and just like a baloon would do , its popping windows out and thats what looks like explosions .

The reason they dropped and other buildings that had been on fire for days hadnt are totally different situations . A PLANE JUST WENT THROUGH THE MIDDLE OF THIS BUILDING , its taken out pillars gallore , it was probably living on 30% of its stilts if you know what i mean .

Anyway , definately a great documantry , cant wait to find time to follow up all the links im coming accross .

[Birky]

ITs definately an interesting topic. If the stuff about Flight 93 landing in Cleveland turned out to be true, then I would hate to thing what happened to the poor people on that flight. This is one part I'm sceptical about as well as the Pentagon.

What I don't get is the US government could stop all the doubt about the Pentagon attack being caused by a plane crash but simply releasing the security footage from the Hilton hotel and the gas station. Surely releasing this tape isn't a threat to national security.
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[Matt]

ok, i watched the Loose Change vid(s). very interesting!!

but i couldnt follow who he was pointing the finger at. was he pointing the finger at the U.S. implying that they planned this attack to happen on themself?

[remotebandit]

there were secret government papers stored in the trade centre that could effect them matt and this is the only way they could destroy the evidence and apparently this is what the whole conspiracy is about ... this is the conclusion ive come to in the last 2 days anyway so may have further theories in time





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[avablast]

it worked out for america now they figured out a way to get cheap oil without paying the saudis a fee yet charge the werld for all its werth

[BAGES]

hahahahaha RB - thats is soooo funny.....

The only thing Americans should fear more than terrorists - is their own stupidity .........