tatoos

[remotebandit]

Guys , got a few hundred $ up my sleeves and have always wanted a tat .

I am after the tribal arm band .

Do many people have tats here , wots the pain thresh hold on the armband ( i faint with needles but am not scared of anything else ) , how much would it cost and my final question is im body building atm and the arms are getting bigger so wondering if i get bigger if it will effect the tat design .

[JD]

my gf has 3 tatoos' and shes the girliest girl there is (likes pink things ect ect)

if she can sit there talking to the tatoo person while shes getting a tatoo then i guess it doesnt hurt much.

shes got one on her shoulder one on her lower back and one on her ankle, none of them hurt she says.

the only time u need to worry about a tat stretching is if u get pregnant haha

[nexxus]

Most of the guys I know see tats on a girl like some idiot with a texta defacing a $1 million painting. But it's personal choice.

[remotebandit]

ive been told not to piss up b4 going and not to smoke up as it will draw more blood so my options on pain relief are ended .

The misses didnt say no tonight when i told her im gonna get 1 so ill do it tomorrow or Tueaday while the windows open .

[JD]

nexxus that didn;t answer any of RB's questions :S

unless ur complimenting him saying his body his like a $1 million painting hehehe

[Birky]

!lol !2clap !lol @ JD
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[MR Rocky]

love tatts, only got to for now.
Think of it as more psychological pain, specially when they hit the bone and you can hear it grinding. It's just a constant annoyance really.
Armband stretched out on forearm. Found it to be more numbing and worse on the fleshy spots personally.
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b71/defekt05/26-03-06019-3.jpg

psychopathic records label. Neck was cool, makes your whole skin crawl like when you get one of those cold chills as "someone walks over your grave"
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b71/defekt05/26-03-06088-2.jpg
So there ya go, now you know my trademarks, come say gday if you see me trackside oneday.

~Matty
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[RohaN]

Heh, Get some of these, they're done with UV responsive ink. kinda useless, but cool nonetheless

http://www.muffinnation.com/crackmuffin/ultraviolet_tattoos.jpg

[rcbash]

Rocky..the first armband..how long does something like that usually take?

[MR Rocky]

that was 1 hr 15 mins by a guy on tour when i was in tassie. cost $110.
supposedly different ink, dunno bout that. hasn't faded at all yet though.. could be..

[BAGES]

hey remote did ya get it??

[JD]

i know he defiently didn;t get it today haha.

[mIKe-]

Are those glow in the dark ones permenant or temporary?

[remotebandit]

hello boys , no , dodnt get it today as i just woke up due to 4 hardcore party nights .

Im gonna go on Friday and get the arm band

[Sempati]

After 4 nights on the turps ... I would be getting 1800-REVERSE and my home address tattoo'd on my forehead

[remotebandit]

LMFAO @ sempati ... good call .

[DoH]

Hey RB, not sure what Melbournes like, but its not like walking to to Target and saying Hey i want a tattoo !!!!! Here in Perth you could be waiting anywhere up to a month to have inkwork done. Go and find a design and take it with you, you wont find alot in the Shop, only generic ones that "everyone has" I have 3 tattoo's. ! tribal armband I designed myself and the other 2 are tattooed on my inner arms. These are Chinese litrature inkwork.

Once u get over the initial start of the inkwork it becomes very numbing. The healing process s*cks though with the creams.

[JD]

a month ?!

just ring up and book somewhere, u'll just have to find a spare time, but u wont be waiting a month lol.

geez wish i was a tattoo artist with al this demand lol, and they get paid pretty good too $100 for an hours work... not bad at all lol

[rcbash]

Haha, 1 month, you serious? Here in sydney all you have to do is walk in to some downer shop and wait 2 mins...

[remotebandit]

yeah , not much of a wait here unless you wanna go to some upmarket $170 an hour bloke just cause he has a trophie sitting in his shop , allot of these blokes are over rated .

Also , no offence to those who have them but wots with people getting asian symbols etc . My mates got 2 kids and knows nothing bout the history of asia nor knows how to speak the language but is getting his kids names printed in Asian . I dont understand , is it for the attention so that people have to ask you wot it is . No disrespect but its just like me going to a shop and telling the guy to print my daughters name in arabic , wots the point , we speak english so print it in english .

My bro inlaw got quiet a few and we booked in for Friday when its his day off

[remotebandit]

Sorry for the above comment Doh , just read yours now but am curious on why .

Below is the 1 im gonna get .

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[RohaN]

does it come with a stylish torn sleveless vest?

[DoH]

I did the Asian because whatever I have tattooed on my arms, NO ONE knows what it says except for me, but I could also say the same for Tribal Arm bands "whats with everyone getting tribal bands" everone did it and everyone has 1...even me hahahaha allthough mines like 7 years old or so !!!!! but yeah in Perth there is very minimal tattoo shops....Dont be a dickhead and go to any shop who is empty, they usually are for a reason. Go to somewhere, where they have a good name, hence i waited for a spot to become available in the shop with a good reputation. Its on your skin for life and is life so dont be blaise.

[MR Rocky]

lol i've never heard of anyone having to wait in perth.
I think a month is a rather large exaggeration.

[DoH]

All Im saying is that, dont expect to walk in sit down and have it done, Sometimes you can ALOT of times you cant. I know of 4 MAJOR studios in Perth where I know of people who either own these stuios or work there and alot are booked up for weeks to months in Advance. Like I said, depends on the studios as there are a few butcher shop types about town.....Im just stating what I know. I know from previous experience also. Over east would be different im sure.

[JD]

yes they are booked up for weeks and months, but that doesnt mean there are abosutely no openings anywhere in that time.

[DoH]

Uhuh...........thats why i said "be selective" most of "THE" good studios are booked many weeks in advance....Any old drunk tattooist can drill you with Ink...I will say it again, be selective as its for life. He asked for for info and Im giving it to him from my experiences.

[mIKe-]

If I was you I would get lots of temprtary ones printed, and put a new one on each day, and when you turn 50 and hate it, you can just stop putting it on LOL.

[mik068]

RB as Doh says do your home work on the tattooist check his work most of them have photos of previous work as its there for life. i have two one on each arm and i got a very good artist to do it and i did my home work my first one i got 20 years ago and the colour is still good and no regrets so good luck mate post a pick in a months time when the scabs heel and you can hold your arm up again ( just joking )

[DoH]

Finally Mike, someone with some sense !
Then again its their skin , but only their life as well ;)

[RCBash]

I did the Asian because whatever I have tattooed on my arms, NO ONE knows what it says except for me, but I could also say the same for Tribal Arm bands "whats with everyone getting tribal bands" everone did it and everyone has 1...even me hahahaha allthough mines like 7 years old or so !!!!! but yeah in Perth there is very minimal tattoo shops....Dont be a dickhead and go to any shop who is empty, they usually are for a reason. Go to somewhere, where they have a good name, hence i waited for a spot to become available in the shop with a good reputation. Its on your skin for life and is life so dont be blaise.


What about asian people? Cant they see whats on your arm?? B)

[DoH]

not necessarily unless there looking around under my arms, otherwise NO and even if they do there are so many different forms of chinese symbolism most Asians do not understand the wording I have written unless I actually tell them, then they can see how I put my working together and only then do they understand my words.

[RCBash]

Someone should get their head shaved and get one of those "extra faces" on the back of their head :P. Honestly though, those things look fair rotten.

[RCBash]

Haha. Thats just odd..I kinda meant something like this http://www.jokesunlimited.com/jokepics/1088.jpg

[mIKe-]

LOL at the first one, he looks like a terrorist!

[JD]

haha thats classic

[DoH]

SO U get the Ink RB ?

[remotebandit]

well i actually listened to you Doh .

THere a respectable mob here in Melbourne that it seems come VERY highly recomended and i went in and had a chat with them and im booked in for not next Wednesday but the Wednesday after , gives me 3 weeks all up to think about if i still want it now ... lol .

[DoH]

Well you should have listed as you askked for advice

:)

[remotebandit]

lol , sometimes you ask for advice to hear wot you wanna hear but wat i wanted to hear was : it doesnt hurt , their cheap as , and yeah , go get 1 today

but what info ive received is : it hurts for a while b4 and after , their not cheap and there is a wait .

You done this b4 have ya doh !whistle


!lol

[DoH]

Ok then RB let me tell you
it doesnt hurt , their cheap as , and yeah , go get 1 today

:)

[remotebandit]

thanx for that doh , i feel so much better now , im gonna get 2 .


haha , you crack me up !lmao

[RCBash]

Get 3 while you're at it, actually why not get 4 or 5?

[remotebandit]

thats wot i wanted to hear , grouse ... thanx guys , i cant believe how supportive you all are .

For my next question ( and the response of wot i want to hear is written below ) :

I really love to piss up every friday night but am worried it will kill my brain cells and cause irritations to my helath in general , what should i do

Response : Drinking is fine , you go out every friday night and also saturday as its all good and actually healthy for your body

[RCBash]

I really love to piss up every friday night but am worried it will kill my brain cells and cause irritations to my helath in general , what should i do?



Keep it up! Once or twice a week shouldnt hurt!! Just dont take drugs with the alcohol...well just dont take drugs at all! !silly !silly !throwup

[RohaN]

http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h181/rohanvenn/KEGORATOR002small.jpg


This is a project of mine from a few years back
Its still going strong as we speak.

this is Beer on tap in my living room,

or "The Kegorator" to its friends

It dispenses 8% alcohol beer most of the time, but has been known on (hazily recalled) occasions to emit bourbon & coke.

Its brewed by me in a sterile keg, & is pressureised by food-grade carbon dioxide, so it actually tastes good, unlike most homebrew.

and the best bit? it costs me 25c per schooner. yes. $0.25 a glass of 8% coopers beer.

tastes very similar to coopers red

http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h181/rohanvenn/KEGORATOR007small.jpg

http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h181/rohanvenn/KEGORATOR003small.jpg


Remote, myhousemates an i arent dead, OR alcoholics, only one of my mates has developed a liver disorder at the age of 21,

i'm sure you'll be fine! !drunk

[RCBash]

RoHan..mate..that is just cool :p Invite me up to Narra one night mate :P

[remotebandit]

LMFAO , thats 1 of the funniest things ive seen .

100 points bro

[RohaN]

cheers, :D

2 of my mates have similar setups of their own now since i made that,
costs about $300 for all the lines, tap, keg, gas & regulators and a 2nd hand fridge is usualy only a case of beer away.
Well worth the investment :p

[RCBash]

Ill come over tonight (friday) friday night pissup at rohans!!

[Mazimbwe]

Ok then RB let me tell you
it doesnt hurt , their cheap as , and yeah , go get 1 today

:)

LoL...the truth is the pain is entirely tollerable...even on the inside of the thigh or under the arm(the 2 worst spots for pain IMHE), otherwise no-one would have them.\
I have sat in the chair for a total of about 40Hrs with 2 VERY large peices on my back, 1 very large peice on my leg and both upper-outer sleeves done. It is only after 5hrs or more that the body starts to go into shock and a good Tatoo artist will feel what is happening to you thru your skin...helping them to stop when they should as your skin will only have a certain tollerance for perforation. !lmao
Be aware that they are very addictive and if you get one you may find yourself wanting more.

Good luck.

[BAGES]

Rohan - love the pic of Bender on the fridge.

RB - so you backed out of getting the tatt ??

[remotebandit]

went about 2 weeks ago ? , all good , 1 guy in back getting it done on his back , wasnt too happy and 1 guy out front , guy out front couldnt handle it , fainted , i walked out .... lol .

I am just chicken shit of needles and any slight thing to put me off it will . Im positive when i hit my hand with a hammer at work it hurts more than a needle or a full tatt for that matter but i need to syc myself up bit more .... or hold someones hand while getting it done ... lol .

It will happen , pitty these blokes wont help me out when ive had a hooch or am pissed , then wed have no prob , i could sleep while they were doing it ... hehe

[DoH]

!lol

[BAGES]

....well if you really want one RB - Im sure it will happen. I only have one so far - but as it was my birthday yesterday (ie. all cashed up) I all ready to book in for my next....maybe we should start a "show us your tat" thread?

[Vampyre]

Ok so there are a few people with tatts out there but what about piercings?I have a 14mm stretched flesh tunnel in my left lobe.Anyone else?


Vamp

[Vampyre]

Here's a pic.


Vamp

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[Vampyre]

I have always wondered what happens when people get sick of thoses big ear lobe things. Your ear lobes will be stuffed.


If I leave it out over night it actually closes up a bit.


Vamp

[remotebandit]

yeah , in 1 ear and out the other

[BAGES]

Vamp - Ive got a bar in my eyebrow on an o/s (stretched) sleeper in the top of my ear.....

[Vampyre]

Vamp - Ive got a bar in my eyebrow on an o/s (stretched) sleeper in the top of my ear.....


Sweet

[BAGES]

Vamp How long did it take to stretch to 14mm? Did they cut any out? .....Ive thought about getting em but my lobes are big already !!

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[remotebandit]

so much to want , so many needles to make me faint

[Vampyre]

[quote=BAGES]Vamp How long did it take to stretch to 14mm? Did they cut any out? .....Ive thought about getting em but my lobes are big already !!


Bages I did it slowly over 2-3 years.Nothing was cut, it was stretched up from a normal piercing.You can go straight up to 00 by getting a dermal punch but it is nasty and bleeds like a stuck pig.Your lobes look good for stretching.Heaps of flesh there.


Vamp

[BAGES]

Hahaha yeah seen pics of the cut - stuck pig is right! Hmmmm might look into it doing the stretch version...........

[remotebandit]

Oh well , today was d day , i got it .

THe bloke that did it stensiled the pattern onto the arm and said hed try a little line to see how id handle the pain of the tattoo gun .

Anyway , he puts the machine on my arm and just rests it there , i feel a bit of relaxing vibration , 5 seconds later he says " ok , line done , can you handle it ? " .... i ****ing spun out , it not only didnt hurt at all but actually felt soothing .... i couldnt belive it .... scared for nothing i was .

He did hit 1 spot that did actually hurt under the urm but by this time i was pretty numb so the pain only lasted a few seconds .

I got it at about 8pm and just pulled off the glad wrap now and let me tell you , i had 2.5 hours in the chair and felt great but i went through some real pain pulling off the glad wrap and the sticky tape they used just now but all good again .

1 thing i do want to ask if i can get a quick answer now is if i can use Zinc Castor cream OR Sorborlene cream overnight to control the scabbing .

Hope to hear back before i go to bed as i dont have the stuff they reccomended .

Attached is the tat just done . Looks shit as they just shaved my arm and its winter so im white ... spray on tan coming soon ... hehe .

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[remotebandit]

man , i was being picked up tonight at 9pm to go to the stippers tonight so just didnt have time to stop off at chemist to buy it as i thought id find a chemist open on way back .

[JD]

they should have given u something... or at least told u what to get ??

[Mazimbwe]

Please be VERY carefull about what you do to the tatt during the scabbing phaze...this is the most vital time for your tattoo.
The Cream usually recommended is Bepanthin(sp?) cream but you should check with your tattooist as it is their work you may wreck with the wrong cream...and they will have a prefference about the cream to use and why.
Usually what I have done is let the scab/ink set for a few hours after the work has finished. Remove the covering and shower washing the excess ink and blood from the area with warm soapy water. Pat the area dry and apply the Bepanthin Cream. After this you should not get the scab overly wet, even when showering.
No picking or rubbing the scab either, minimal sunlight and no swimming.
And the cream is not something supplied by the Tattooist...or never has been in the 20yrs I have been having ink added.

I find it funny that people get their upper arn tattoo'd and say
"...it not only didnt hurt at all but actually felt soothing."
Get an area that is not exposed to the sun and the rigours of life tattoo'd and then get back to me. Inside the thigh, under the arm, spine, kidney and neck will test out the pain-threshold a little more.

HTH

[remotebandit]

of course they tell you what to get Jd but hard to find at 1am ( and when your so pissed its a bit hard to walk ... lol ) .

Yes MZ , it is Bepanthin and left early this morning to get some so am now wiped up .

As far as the upper arm being tattood ... mate , i honestly cant believe how good it felt , it was like a massage ... intill he hit the inside . Fortunately im not going any further on tats so wont have to learn what pain is anywhere else .

[remotebandit]

ohhh MZ ... how long does this cream application thing go for , im assuming about 10 days ?

[Mazimbwe]

I kept the cream application going till all the scab was gone. The Scab is the body healing, and once it is healed the tattoo is permanent, scab care and protection is very important for the long-term look & condition of the life-art you now have.

Good luck with it.

[BAGES]

Im only a month late (havent been on in a while) but congrats RB - looks good.............wait till you see my next one finished mwuhahahahahahahahahahaa its a 1/2-3/4 sleeve up on to the chest, traditional japanese...........

[BAGES]

.....unfortunately I dont have a scanner to scan in the design, but I thought I would throw up a pic which best represents the colouring style Im going with....... !super

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[BAGES]

Thought I would update for RB or anyone else interested on my 3/4 sleeve......have had the outline done and waiting for it to be healed so the colouring can begin...here is a pic of the outline.........what you cant see is the dragons neck and head which rolls over my shoulder and onto my chest (a bit hard to capture all that in the one shot !silly

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[remotebandit]

Jesus bages , thats allot of work bro .

Mate , how long were you in the chair for there , looks like about 2.5 hours atleast just on the arm .

[BAGES]

Not exactly sure I was at the shop for bout 4-5 hours - but maybe an hour was sorting out the stencil etc before we started, three different guns/needles were used in different parts to get the thicknesses right.......

[MR Rocky]

hey all,

Quote: Get an area that is not exposed to the sun and the rigours of life tattoo'd and then get back to me. Inside the thigh, under the arm, spine, kidney and neck will test out the pain-threshold a little more.

The back of the neck isn't so bad, kind of makes you get that feeling when supposedly someone is walking over your grave.
to show the difference between scab care and no scab care,

This pics are from the same photo
Scab care,
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b71/defekt05/26-03-06019-3.jpg

scab neglect
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b71/defekt05/26-03-06088-2.jpg
probably have to get this one redone.

ps. G'day Maz :)

Matty

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[remotebandit]

hahaha Rocky , you loved my avater so much you got it on the back of your neck ha ... lol .

Love the arm 1 man .


Scab care ... can they redo tats over a tat to fix up spots that didnt scab to well can they . Ive got 1 bit on the underside that peeled bout 5mm of inc and looks like a blemish patch .... not noticable to most as its not visible unless you lift your arms but when you know its there its there if you know what i mean . Can they redo that to match the same skin texture and colour as the rest again can they




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[MR Rocky]

lol, it's the psychopathic records label.

I'm not sure on touch ups, I would think it'd be better to have the whole lot done. From both points of view, you don't want a dark patch of fresh ink and im sure they wouldn't really bother setting up for a 2 minute touch up. I've also heard of artist preferring not to touch others work, so not sure really. I also have a blemsih from some welding spatter on my forearm. a perfect dot right in the middle. I'm just opting to wait a few years then i might get it totally redone.

[Mazimbwe]

RB, It is totally possible to touch -up work but as Rocky stated it is often a Whole piece that gets the fresh ink rather than just a patch in the whole piece.
And most artists will NOT touch other artists work, big No-No among tatooists, so if you can go back and see the original Tatooist but check with your ink-man first about it.

Howdy Rocky...you will notice that "Neck" is the last on the list of Painfull-areas to get tattoo'd as it is not as bad as inside the thighor arm....it made my head rattle and my skin-crawl in one small section.

[MR Rocky]

Maz,
Matty from Chuckies forum mate, if you didn't guess :)

I can only imagine it would be worse even just on the side of the neck, a more sensitive and less weathered area.

[Mazimbwe]

G'day Matty....didn't realise it was you.
Yep mate....side and front would be worse than the back of the neck.

[JD]

JD was here

[mIKe-]

mike was here

[RCBash]

Josh was here. JD's mother says hello.

[MR Rocky]

wtf?

[BAGES]

When I get a chance I will update with a photo of my sleeve - have had two more visits with all the background black and grey shading done, and the scales added to the dragons body. The next two (last two) visits will be adding the colour to the dragon and the japanese maple leaves........ !super
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[remotebandit]

your a bodgie looking **** bages ... lol ... jk

Jesus , i forgot this thread even existed ... blast from the past .

[Mazimbwe]

OK, I have seen some of yours.

...here's one of mine(the newest one).

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[mIKe-]

Bit of an X-men fan? Looks like wolverine.

[Richard]

lol rob a bank with ur head like that.next day. shave it lol

[Mazimbwe]

Wolverine fan actually. The design is from one of the earliest editions of Wolverine(Number 4 I think) with the collectable rear cover art. I knew the minute I saw it that it was going to be something I wanted as a Tat.
Still have a whole lot to go on it but 17+Hrs has gone into it already.

[mik068]

nice art pity about the leg its on

[Mazimbwe]

hmmm...you have no idea how reasuring it is that my legs do not turn you on Mick.

No idea!!! LMAO

[mIKe-]

WHat the hell. I swore that was an arm, I was just looking at the tat... never noticed leg, ewwwwww.

[BAGES]

Ah well never got that last update pic up - but my sleeve is now fully coloured......unfortunately I now only have a crappy $20 camera to try and get a pic with.........here is a before and after !evil





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[*TOP DOG*]

shiiitttt mate...

[Vampyre]

Talk about digging up an old thread..lol.I got my first Tattoo yesterday.Talk about anticipation and freaking out for nothing.Anyway here are some pics.

Vamp

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[Vampyre]

2.



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[remotebandit]

dunno whats scarier , the spider or your head .

Seriously though Chris , being a moderator here ive had many many pms from members telling me that your head is offensive and innapropriate for this site as they are sickened by the vision and dont want to expost their kids to it . Can you please remove the above picture .

Thanx .

[Vampyre]

RB oh great mod of all mod's two things..1) It isn't a fricken spider.It's an army ant.It is the symbol used by my favorite band,The Prodigy.2) I knew there was a good reason we haven't seen any pics of you on here since the server crash.MMmm maybe that was the reason for it......server couldn't handle the horror of RB's head.


Vamp

[remotebandit]

&| RB realises the truth in the above statement and crawls back under the rock from whence he came out of .



haha , looks good vamps

[yogi]

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[Vampyre]

You shouldn't say things like that Yogi or are you just wishing?


Vamp

P.S. Don't get too close you might get bitten.



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[yogi]

hahahaha no

[yogi]

ur weird

[nonitro]

MZ your avatar is hypnotic...:P i got my tatt @ 23 unfotunately the person is now deceased or i would have more work done. zodiac sign with coiled flames around. on my upper right arm. and yeah after a while i got numb with pain, about after 20 mins. top of the tatt is over my arm socket so its near bone but it didnt seem to matter. after a while i looked over the work and saw the blood coming off it. shocked me because it didnt seem to be in proportion of the pain i wasnt feeling. when he started a new complete section i could feel the pain fresh as ever. best feeling to comparing it to is someone cutting you with glass....slowly. first night of sleep is always the hardest. laying there with bepanthen cream and bloody glad wrap over your shoulder and arm. next tatt i want is one with H.R Geiger artwork aka the guy who does all the Alien creatures artwork. i want part of my spine done in that.