Track Adjustments

[SuperRoo]

Hey guys would it be worth putting up a better barrier in this section of track? After 3 high speed headon's in this area of the track that I saw last friday night and one resulting in some front end damage to one new buggy it might be worth considering.

Is running the track in reverse going to be a regular fixture?

Maybe this question could be the next poll.

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[johnnyboy]

this problem will be taken care of in the next few weeks if people did not drive out of control things like that would not happen. the reverse racing will come and go all year

[KingBob]

Nuts, as john said we already have plans for it. We'll likely just install a poly-pipe barrier like the rest of the black pipe in other places. Only reason we haven't yet is that that particular corner is over a concrete base, and the loops in the ground holding the rest of the polypipe can't be pushed into the concrete. We'll probably be doing some drilling.

We've also talked about tyres around the fence at the end of the straight.

Of course, again as john said, if people learnt to drive and control their cars properly, before strapping in the fastest motor they can find, it wouldn't be an issue.

[doogie]

Its no point putting anything along there.That part of the track has the biggest piece of concrete barrier already and cars will fly over any barrier if they are going to fast.Cars should be on the track hence the word track.educating the drivers is the best barrier against car damage.

[Boony]

yeh and if u guys do,do track work there,itll eliminate running thats ection b4 the tt like a real track,on the ripple strip.ppl just need to learn to drive there and its Karma coming to get u if u damage ur car :p

[KingBob]

lol Boony you haven't got a clue! It's to protect OTHER drivers cars! I myself had a part broken on friday by someone who crossed over that edge.

[DoH]

"quote"Hey guys would it be worth putting up a better barrier in this section of track? After 3 high speed headon's in this area of the track that I saw last friday night and one resulting in some front end damage to one new buggy it might be worth considering. "if people did not drive out of control things like that would not happen" "quote"

Hence the reason the regular interclub racers dont like taking their good cars out on Friday nights. ALot get hammered by silly racers.

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[Mazimbwe]

I think most of us have, at some stage or another, run over that line...but I think the guys with more Power, in their car, than they can properly handle do tend to blow over the line a WHOLE lot more and a whole lot further.
Just another reason why Stock rocks. :D

[SuperRoo]

My point of view was more in reference to protecting those that are driving on the correct side of the track as KB pointed out.

The curbing that currently exists isn't a deterrent at all and only adds to the lack of control that some drivers already exibit.

Having a larger more obvious barrier would give some drivers a physical barrier to judge the corner by and act as a deterrent for those that abuse this section of track.

As its already been decided upon that this section of the track is going to be fixed up I will be the first to put my hand up to offer helping hand to fix it.

[golumn]

ah my favorite corner

[DoH]

ah my favorite corner


Gav, your normally that far in front it wouldnt matter.

!burnout

[golumn]

can you remember the second final at the states there a couple of years ago. still cry when i watch it. didnt even finish a lap. was way out in front too.

[golumn]

thats y i was soo soo happy this year (apart from the weagles)

[DoH]

thats y i was soo soo happy this year (apart from the weagles)

PPPPffFFFFfffffttttthhhhhhhhh

Get use to the Eagles winning Gav. well everything except the Derbies...but we let you win them now so you can take the piss when were at interclubs !lol

[Alex]

read the track , and improve on trigger control on your radio.

going flat out with speed and power does not always give you the win. most of the time it equates to breaking yours or someone else's car.

[Boony]

well sumed up alex and i have to agree 100% with un there

[obzELiTe]

but as with most things in life you need to allow for the lowest common denominator, that's why the freeway isn't divided by a white line.
I'm one the guilty parties who rides that line, last week i did get caught out when i hit it wrong and got thrown into oncoming traffic, no damage xxxt toughness, but i could have hit a weak car and not another xxxt and done some damage.

Point is, its going to happen. you can fix it or you can just tell people to learn to drive.

The government could save some money and sack all the cops, they just have to tell ppl to not drink and drive, don't speed and don't steal shit. I hear it works really well.

[Boony]

not coming from a commitee point of view but i do know what happens around the club,the guys are trying to save for pt's atm and alot of guys are just starting to work again.

the money spent doing this will not allow us(the club) to buy the pt's

also dad will probably not come back on here b4 tonites meet but he has mentioned to me that although track work will not be done,some thing will be done about it.

at the end of the day if you dont want your car wrecked dont drive near it!!!!

Boony

[sprocket]

All points above are valid, I agree with Obzelite also. Lets face it (and I don't mean to offend anyone here) As good as Peter Brock was at driving, I'm guessing a combination of power, speed and road objects caused the end result. What I am saying is no matter how good you, are or are not, if some track mod/barricade can be used to stop carnage without spoiling the track then worth a look at least.

[Maxd out]

The baracade already exhists ,sweep the excess clay from that area & you will see :) !2clap

[Alex]

but as with most things in life you need to allow for the lowest common denominator, that's why the freeway isn't divided by a white line.

white lines, governments and freeways...heck...dont even get me started.. heck.. too late! :D

freeways are abit too special. lets look at your normal streets and highways where it IS divided by a whiteline.. or two.

how many of you drink drive? how many of you drive tired? how many of you not use indicators when you turn lanes??? think a white line on the road will stop you from crashing>???

Another example: Allowing lowest common denominator gave us the "slow left lane, fast right overtaking lane" rule. Do you think people follow that rule? no.

People choose what they want to do. we all know people who are driving at or under the speed limit should stay on the left.. but some chooses to constrict traffic by staying to the right... then they get intimidated when a faster car is coming behind them, but unable to get back to the left lane cos they are either too scared to drive a little bit faster, or have no room to move. They get all worried, they get angry, or they get nervous and ultimately some make a fatal mistake.

sorry for the ramble.. At the end of the day there is not enough pleasing to go around for everyone. And some people will take advantage of the situation if they are selfish and blind enough to do so...

yes, high speed collisions do happen
yes, mistakes do happen
yes, accidents do happen
yes, we r all a little trigger happy some times
yes, we bitch when there are rules imposed on us
yes, we bitch when there is too much freedom
yes, we are all human

end rant

IN MY OPINION ONLY. NO OFFENCE INTENDED ok. ill stop !jerkit

[Richard]

Lol my dad is the one who crashed lol we had a head on collision into each other and he broke his servo horn !silly
But still i do think there should be an extended part before somebody els crashes.

[stone]

So how many Incedents have there been since this thread and the stop go penalty night? NONE that Ive seen.

I will not be fixing that curb anytime in the near future,End of story!

But,for those that cant make it around there,Im going to be puttin some kind of rythem section in. Between the second drop off,and the next step up. So we wont need a bloody curb,because you'll be on and off the gas,instead of holding full throtel and full left.

[Ghost_rider]

Goon on ya stoney! And keep up the good work with the track mods.

Heck, why dont you create another club rule for if you cross that curb onto the wrong side of the track. Say you miss ur next race even if its the final?? or wat about the $5.00 rule lol. Just as long as EVERYONE agrees before enforcing it!!!
!smack !stfu !slap
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[x-wing]

I like the corner the way it is. It is one of the only corners where you can enter and exit with some power. Most of the other corners are either fast (on power) into a slower section or slow (off power) into a fast section.
Putting a rhythm section in will certainly slow people down but it won't teach them that there is a whole range of throttle between full off and full on.

[obzELiTe]

anytype of penalty is going to be a joke because its simply not applied across the board.
But i've now seen ppl cross the track in multiple places even with barriers.
what i would like to see is the lump of concrete that is on the far side of the track as you come off the raised section at the back smoothed off.

[Mazimbwe]

That just tests your heart...go hard on the top section at your peril but there is an advantage to pushing hard and wide, if you make it. ;)
It has broken my car so I know the danger but I have also made up places on that dip-to-corner too.

[Nissanmania]

Obzelite - I agree with your sentiments regarding this nasty piece of concrete that serves only as a car breaker. When it breaks an E-max you know it's bad news.

Ghost Rider - How many more fines is this club going to introduce?? Aren't we doing this for fun? Next we'll have speeding fines for going around the track too fast!

[Wilkinson]

Just leave the track the way it is, we all race on it so noone is at an advantage or disadvantage.
The best thing for the conrete drop is to bank that corner, if your still going off it then your going to fast for it.

People hate the dirt at Barbagallo Raceway, but that place hasn't changed cause it's the same for everyone. you either put up with it or don't race.

Chris

[Nissanmania]

That's not true Wilkinson. If there's a safety issue with the track - as there is quite a few at Barbagallo that CAMS is forcing the club to rectify - then the track should be changed. OK, no-ones getting hurt at Bayswater, but the cars are. Yes, if you drive well you don't hit it. But the penalty for hitting an obstacle shouldn't be a broken car everytime.

[Boony]

i dont see y ppl r runnin g wide on the outer part of the track were the crossover thing is,u should be running a tight line round the coner imo

[Wilkinson]

Nissan, of all the times I've been there I think I might of seen maybe 3 crashes on the part of the racetrack where a car has crossed over.

Crashes happen, it's part of racing, thats why they are racecars. Parts are made to be broken, thats why you can buy them individualy.

Chris