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KingBob
14-12-2008, 05:28 PM
I'm far from a guru on the subject, but these are some of my tips, and the way i've found works best for me. A lot of the complex stuff (fades etc) comes down to airbrush control.

Before even touching paint/airbrush/mask, you need to plan the design. I'll often draw on paper the rough layout of what i want. usually do a top/side pic, drawing the lines, fades, etc, even get the coloured pencils out and see if what i'm thinking of works design-wise.

Once you're happy with the design, grab an artliner pen, a couple of thicknesses and colours helps. I then draw the design on the outside of the body. You're drawing on the overspray film so theres no worries about making a mess. I'll draw in all the lines, dots, panels, flames, whatever you want, and will write the colour on the body so i dont lose track. I also do scribbles where a fade is so i remember.

if the body doesnt come pre-cut, ie: wheel wells, post holes etc, now is the time to do them. Use straight and curves scissors for trimming the body, and of course a reamer for the body holes. Tip for touring cars, it can be a bitch to get nice smooth round wheel arches, so go to a stationery store, and get a compass cutter. Like a regular compass you'd use to draw circles, but has a blade instead. Use it to score the wheel well. Gives a perfect circle and a smooth edge.

Next, wash the inside of the body with detergent. Gets ride of all the mold release agent from when it was made, and all the dust, and grease from your fingers. I use warm water and whatever detergent is handy, and use paper towel to scrub it because it tends to be lint free. Once finished, use more paper towel to dry the body down, but avoid putting your fingers inside the body, that will add more fingerprints/grease. The water detergent should have no effect on the artliner used to draw on the outside of the body.

OK, time to mask.

You need to plan your design, and what parts will be painted first. Remember to always paint dark colours first, and light colours last. Otherwise if you do a white or yellow, and back with black, it will affect the colour.

Masking with liquid mask or tape will depend on the design you want and the body. Tape can have issues with complex curves, and may lift resulting in paint bleeds. But liquid mask can be difficult to cut in straight lines. I'll use a mix if the design calls for it. Key to remember, mask the last thing you'll paint, first. On my 8T body for example, i masked the yellow/flame areas first. I then masked the chrome area.

So, put on all the window masks, then mask the last thing you'll paint, then second last... etc for however may layers you're doing.

Just before you spray, run your nail along the edge of the tape to make sure its stuck down to avoid bleeds. Then spray the colour for that area, with whatever fades/colour your design calls for. If it is a solid colour, it may need to be backed. Flouro colours should be backed with white, as should "normal" colours like red or blue if they're slightly opaque. Silvers and blacks dont generally need backing. If your design will require you to spray a dark colour which may back a light colour, then back the light colour with silver first. Ie: flouro yellow - white - silver. The silver wont affect the white, but will be opaque and stop the dark colour altering the light one.

Then remove your masks in order of your paintjob. You can use a hairdryer to accelerate drying times, but dont use it on any chrome colour. Chrome needs to dry naturally to give the particles time to align and become reflective.When peeling a mask, try not to peel over fresh paint as it may peel it up, let it dry first.

Rinse, later, repeat. Basically keep going for as many layers you need. My 8T body had 5 layers. I masked the yellow/flame areas first, then the rear desk, then the whole rear/silver area, and of course the front black area. The front black bit was done first. (actually with a carbon fibre pattern but wont go into that here). Once dry, the rear silver area was unmasked. I actually only used a sheet of paper and 1 piece of tape to cover the rear bit... just stops spray going that way, no need to tape up every inch. I applied tape in straight lines to do the panel fades, and did the bolts with a paint brush. Did a small black fade around the bolts to give depth, then did the silver areas. The silver was then backed with black. (it's actually a white aluminium colour that needs black to become solid). Next i peeled the flame section, up to where the orange fade goes across the front. Did the orange fades first, then peeled the yellow front area, then did all the yellow. This was all then backed in white. Next was the rear deck, again in carbon fibre pattern.

Next was the window trim, with a sharp scalpel. i trim 3-4mm around the edge of each mask. peeled it, then did the silver bolts/dots. Back with black and voila. Peeled the window masks, and then used some tint spray to tint the windows.

If it's a nitro, i'll back the whole paintjob with faskolor faskoat. Its a latex stuff that dries solid and protects the paint from fuel/heat/rubbing.

Thats the basic principles.

Basically, PLAN the paintjob, mask the last thing to paint first, and away you go.

This is pretty much how i do all of mine, it does take practice, and there is no substitute for that. I've had some disastrous results in the past, but i learnt from them, so i got better.

:)

KingBob
14-12-2008, 10:17 PM
Next body i paint i'll do a step by step photo guide.

KingBob
14-12-2008, 10:36 PM
I actually have a body to paint for Maxd Outs MT, but havent come up with a design yet. Anyone have a suggestion?

Patrick
15-12-2008, 01:23 PM
I actually have a body to paint for Maxd Outs MT, but havent come up with a design yet. Anyone have a suggestion?

I hear his favorite colour is pink and he likes fairies, so that could be a good place to start.

KingBob
15-12-2008, 03:58 PM
haha, hey hot pink can be arranged! :D

Emlyn
18-12-2008, 08:53 AM
and of course a reamer for the body holes.


why do you ream the body post holes before you paint?:)

KingBob
18-12-2008, 10:37 AM
Because depending on the type of paint, when you stick a reamer through the body, it can lift the paint, or tear it as you ream.

Same reason I trim the body before, you can scratch the paint with the scissors etc.

Emlyn
18-12-2008, 01:14 PM
Because depending on the type of paint, when you stick a reamer through the body, it can lift the paint, or tear it as you ream.

Same reason I trim the body before, you can scratch the paint with the scissors etc.

thanks:D

KingBob
21-12-2008, 11:13 PM
OK, so i had another of MaxdOuts bodies to paint, and i wanted to do another body with carbon fibre, so here we go....

Starting out we have a nice shiny body.

http://members.iinet.net.au/%7Ecanison/ta/1.JPG

Step 2, cut and trim. I always use curved scissors around the body curves, impossible to cut a nice curve other wise. In this case i dont know what chassis its going on so cant do the body holes, but this paint should be ok for reaming without tearing.
http://members.iinet.net.au/%7Ecanison/ta/2.JPG

Next up i grab my artliner pen anddraw my rough design on the outside. In this case, its based on a design i saw ages ago, carbon fibre front end, metal rips, and a coloured rear end. Going for yellow at the back. Once you've finished drawing it, wash the inside of the body with detergent, and scrub with a lint free cloth or tissue. Then dry, all while avoiding touching the inside of the body with your fingers.
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First up i applied the window masks, then using the drawn design, I cut masks in tape to stick on. You can apply to the tape to the body and cut it there, but you risk scoring the polycarbonate, which will make it susceptible to cracking along the score line. You can do it, but be gentle with the knife. In this case i chose to cut the tape on a piece of scrap plastic instead.
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KingBob
21-12-2008, 11:14 PM
Then peel and stick to the body.
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Repeat for the rest of the design. When masking keep in mind that you always paint darkest colours first, in this case the carbon in the middle of the rips, and the front end.
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Then i filled in the gaps that will be the yellow parts of the body, leaving only the CF parts exposed and ready to paint.
http://members.iinet.net.au/%7Ecanison/ta/8.JPG

Using a piece of drawer liner for the pattern, i laid it down ready to spray the silver part of the carbon fibre.
http://members.iinet.net.au/%7Ecanison/ta/9.JPG

KingBob
21-12-2008, 11:18 PM
Next i Sprayed the Faescent yellow.
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KingBob
21-12-2008, 11:19 PM
I then backed the yellow with white to brighten it up a bit, before peeling the rest of the tape from the "torn metal" areas.
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I then add some more tint to simulate folds in the metal, some scorching etc etc.
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KingBob
21-12-2008, 11:20 PM
Then use chrome to paint the metal of the rips, then back that with black.
http://members.iinet.net.au/%7Ecanison/ta/22.JPG
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I also did something a little with the headlights and smiley faces. I cut a mask, sprayed yellow, then backed with white. Once they're all done i did the black. The black is also applied to the window trim which is trimmed with a scalpel to 2 or 3mm thick.
http://members.iinet.net.au/%7Ecanison/ta/24.JPG

KingBob
21-12-2008, 11:21 PM
Peel the overspray film, and VOILA! All done.
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KingBob
21-12-2008, 11:22 PM
Apply a few stickers and she's ready to go.
http://members.iinet.net.au/%7Ecanison/ta/29.JPG

Lessons learnt:

1:Silver as the second colour for CF doesnt work too well. Because of the body curves the liner never quite sits flat and the overspray from the silver gets everywhere and shows up too much. A little silver added to metallic black should do the trick i think.

2: The inside lines on the rips should be straighter.

3: Tiny smiley faces are a bitch to cut!

eichkay
21-12-2008, 11:35 PM
Nice write up, this has given me a few idea's to try on my next body... I really need to get my airbrush going again, im rather limited with my spray can job's.

KingBob
21-12-2008, 11:43 PM
OOps, i left a bit out! This step should be at the top of this page.

The silver after spraying through the liner.
http://members.iinet.net.au/%7Ecanison/ta/10.JPG

Which is then backed with black.
http://members.iinet.net.au/%7Ecanison/ta/11.JPG

Then peeled the area to be yellow.
http://members.iinet.net.au/%7Ecanison/ta/12.JPG

Before i do the yellow i did some streaks in yellow/orange/red/gold/tint.
http://members.iinet.net.au/%7Ecanison/ta/13.JPG

Emlyn
22-12-2008, 09:12 AM
the carbon fibre looks mint how much do you charge to do a body?

KingBob
22-12-2008, 01:38 PM
I used to charge around $50, but given time/effort/paint costs, it really became not worth it. Now i mostly just do my own, or this one which i promised Maxdout ages ago. Seriously i've had that body for like a year!

remotebandit
01-03-2009, 11:39 PM
Hey bloke , youve got major competition .

Last week i was spraying up a Porsche shell i had and my 2 year old son was all over it while i was trying to mask it up .

I was getting no where so i gave him a Lambo shell and told him to mask it up for me so we could spray it and bloke , your in trouble coz hes gonna over take you by the time hes on his second 1 .

Just look at that determination on his face as he lines up the rear mask .

KingBob
02-03-2009, 11:11 AM
hahaha, not bad!
I'll wait until he starts masking on the inside though :P

gazza
15-11-2009, 01:10 AM
hey guys to help with paint adhesion if you use a gray scotch brite pad (found in most retailers eg. coles) and the dish washing liquid well washing the inside it will lightly scratch the inside surface up witch will help with the adhesion and the paint should fill the scratch marks so there unnoticeable might have to give extra coat but they should fill with ease, as long as you dont go stupid with the scotch pad, and make sure you use dish washing liquid when doing it. works a treat

KingBob
15-11-2009, 01:16 AM
But that depends on the kind of paint. For faskolor yeah no worries, for metallics, anodized colours, and chrome etc, any slight scuff will be visible. As long as the body is clean adhesion shouldn't be an issue. Spazstix even recommend cleaning the body with isopropyl!

OzSlash
15-11-2009, 01:36 AM
I've been reading that the scotch pad has been widely used to help the paint adhere to the lexan, Isopropyl is an alcohol based cleaner widely used in the auto industry got a marker at work, does it make that much of a dif? ...But judging from this thread KB you have it sorted!!! Your paint jobs look Sik!!!!

gazza
15-11-2009, 03:13 PM
basically all Isopropyl is a wax and grease remover but if you use detergent and warm water will do the same thing, only thing is the wax and grease remover evaporates quickly were as water and detergent you have to dry out and make sure if you do use a detergent that you rinse the body really well and make sure there are no suds in the body as can affect paint and throughly dry out with paper towel, after body is washed you should wash your hands throughly to aviod making greasy hand marks, gloves are another good option to stop containination